Forum:Counselor/Lt. Spots

For a while now there's been a lot of argument about putting a cap on the amount of counselors/lt. counselors users are allowed to have particulalry in certain instances when one user would stack upwards of around 11 counselor/lt. spots. In light of this and recent frustrations about the quality of roleplaying, we decided that it might be best to impose an official maximum limit to promote more quality and fairness. However, the topic is still very debatable and there are countless options so we thought we would open the dicussion up for debate.

Debate
js, i think there was already a vote/debate on this

and nothing whatsoever was decided cuz Lott had a hissy fit, me and him fought, and I decided I didn't want to deal with it

XD well i don't really think there should be a limit and if there has to be one. I'd like 5 head spots and 5 Lt. Spots :)

Imo, 5 heads and 5 Lt. spots is still too large a limit. Say a user would have reached the maximum limit, that's still a total of 10 characters with positions of power. I was thinking a maximum of around 3 Head Counselor positions and either 2 or 3 Lt spots.

Ditto Demi. I think having 3 Head Counselor positions and 3 Lt. Counselor positions would be enough.

Well, we should also consider, once upon a time, the last person that ended up with 11 or 12 head/lt spots, only 2 were lts, they had like 10 head counsellor spots, which is clearly way too many head spots for one user.

However we should should try to look at it from a different angle, consider this, there's like, what 45 cabins? So that's 90 positions of power, let's say we did 3 head/2 lt (only cuz 5 is an easier number to divide by 90 than 6 is and I'm tired and can't be bothered to pull out a calculator >.<) That's 18 users. Now the odds that 18 users here, are all active enough and care enough, to have that many spots, which is doubtful. What we need is a fair inbetween number, one to keep a user from amassing 10 head spots, but one that won't hinder us in times when we have more inactive users than active users.

We should also keep in mind, that I do still wish to find a way for the spots to mean more in character, it may not be anything as flashy as a special power, and will 100% depend on users actually roleplaying and developing their characters in roleplay, but that is a goal. Because another issue I often have with counsellor challenges, is most challenges are done on a whim of a borde user with very little thought to any in character reasons or impacts. Users just want to fight with no thought to how that impacts things, or their character's actual reasons and intent behind challenging. I mean most users don't even rp their counsellors doing anything counsellor worthy any way or doing bad things. Which is one of the biggest reasons I don't care about the spots, because clearly most of the wiki only sees them as an out of character badge of honour.

That is all.... good day.... *turns and walks away*

>.<

@demi no way, like bach said most people don't care or are active enough to hold that many spots. and along with what bach said. she isn't the only one who doesn't give a rat's ass about positions. i know i do, but if many people feel that way. there should'nt be a limit at all >.<

What happens to the users who are already over three heads and two lts.? Like I know Hydro, Hyu and myself have over five, and from what I believe Hyu and I got given most of ours >.<. Now even though I wanted to give most of my spots up, what about others?

good point, i know i may sound like a whiny prick for this. but i'd personally like to keep my positions V.V