Forum:Bach and Demi's Special Talk page

We use our talk pages so much, we're starting a page so we can keep rack of convos easier >.< instead of bouncing back and forth, if you aren't demi or bach, you shouldn't be editing here.....

Ideas/things to Do
Sometimes our talks lead to ideas that should be put into place, this is to list them and cross them out as we do them, so we don't forget....


 * 1) Make a schedule template to put on chat mods user pages, where they fill in what days/general times they were in chat "modding"
 * 2) Prototype quiz on google documents/forms to test users on becoming a helper in claims
 * 3) Have all existing helpers, rbs, etc take it when it's done to see how they do
 * 4) Make a page for help with learning to check claims, a question area like the help forum but just for claim questions, a pointers area for giving advice on checking claims, an area to keep track of the helper quiz and who's taken it
 * 5) Tweak Hecate Powers a bit with something to do with mist control (see notes on 9-Nov below)
 * 6) Set it up and get word out, about making Lts/Head counsellors (the users) in charge of keeping the cabin count up to date on the cabin they have spots in (1. making sure the number/category is correct, 2. Making sure all the chars there are in the appropriate sections (off inactive, in the mist, active, etc), 3. Making sure all are listed on the page (new campers, etc).
 * 7) Make a page to keep track of death nymphs like we have with Animal Nymphs and Erotiads (Current Death Nymphs, Dead/Left/User Gone death nymphs, what events they are based on and maybe an area of suggestions for people to use for future death nymphs that have large number of deaths (not a few hundred, but thousands)
 * 8) Deal with/talk about the newspaper situation
 * 9) Make a central priest/priestess page to keep track of what cabins have ones and what ones don't
 * 10) Go through Category:Shared Model and make sure that all that are there are truly shared (in case some pages were deleted) and that the users all have permission from whomever was using the model first to use the model
 * WIP

On-going stuff

 * 1) Word Bubble Overhaul Sign Up
 * 2) Onyx put in charge of Adopt a Newb page (15-Nov)
 * 3) Migs up for Admin (15-Nov)

17-18 November
If you have time, could you go over Claiming:Camp/Rae Scott? I really don't know how to address the claim anymore :(


 * - Demi 08:19, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

>.< Here's another one: Claiming:Broken Covenant/Connor Alexander. This one is actually fine but the last line in the history bothers me quite a bit so I thought maybe you could give me a third opinion. :)


 * - Demi 12:18, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I addressed the Rae Scott claim and gave them 7 days to either decide to scrap it, or completely re-write it from the ground up, because there's too much wrong with it for a few minor edits to fix it, I told them in 7 days if they essentially don't agree to re-write it or scrap it themselves, we'll deny and delete.

And addressed the Connor claim, to be honest I think a lot more was wrong than the last line.


 * ~ Bach 14:49, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I messaged GMK asking if they plan to have Glacia back at camp now that it's fall/winter....


 * ~ Bach 16:32, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

>.< It looks like I still need to work on checking BC claims then. Thanks for checking the two claims, Bach! :)


 * - Demi 12:49, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

You're most welcome, the key to BC claims is to remember, they should have all the stuff a regular claim does plus:
 * 1) Why they didn't go to camp, if they did, why they left, how long ago, etc
 * 2) Somehow in their history it should have something to validate their reason for hating and/or wanting change. Like with Civitas, they are the least extreme, they want equality, fairness and democracy, so they dont have to hate the gods per se, just how the gods operate. But like Opus is hardcore, like they think of demigods like nazi's thought of the aryan race, superior, etc. But you see if someone led a normal childhood, reasonable, nothing major, and suddenly they are against the gods, it just seems out of place and odd. Like that claim for instance, sure the kids life wasn't entirely perfect, but whose is in life, and prior to the satyr at the end telling him about things, he had no idea what was what.
 * 3) Also, in general, the BC isn't a bunch of blood thirsty thugs, so people that paint them like that in their histories, making it seem like their char was forced to join, isn't acceptable. the BC wants committed soldiers, not people there because they were threatened

Hope that helps :)


 * ~ Bach 13:02, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

I talked to Staff about the issues on some people editing the cabin pages, this is what he said:

"Hello BachLynn23,

Thanks for contacting us with your report. This is very likely due to the visual editor - some unusual HTML constructs can cause it to lose track of where linebreaks should be occurring. This is part of the reason we are entirely rewriting the visual editor, as mentioned on http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Blog:Darwin

In order to prevent the use of the visual editor on specific pages, you can add the text __NOWYSIWYG__ for now. I've made a small tweak to the page code that I believe should have fixed the problem without resorting to that code though.

Apologies for this issue, and best regards,"

- George Marbulcanti (Kirkburn) Wikia Community Support

this shows the fix he made.

So between the tweak he did, as well as adding the __NOWYSIWYG__ we should be fine, and once they get the darwin thing (soon hopefully) this wont happen any more anyways

Also, I noticed a bunch of users over time have used word bubbles incorrectly, instead of doing like after making the template, they just keep copy/pasting everything on the template page, which also brought over the categories, I had to delete 500 comments today because they had been added to the word bubble templates category. We need to keep an eye out for that.


 * ~Bach 18:41, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

So we have to make sure that all word bubbles templates that are categorized use the tags? Oh, also, I thought I'd inform you that I may go somewhat less active in the next few days. :( I haven't been feeling well lately, so I'll be editing less until I get better. :((


 * - Demi 13:11, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

No, the noinclude tags are there, but they aren't using the template like they should, like once you make a template for someone, you only do, but what they are doing, is every single time they use it, they are copy/pasting the coding from the word bubble they made, the actual coding, category and all so it ends up like, blah I don't know how else to explain it, like Template:Jayson2 if you go to that page, and click edit, there's the word bubble coding and the categories, they are copying all that every single time, instead of just doing  the noinclude tags only make it so that when you use the word bubble template correctly ((jayson2|blahblah)) the categories from the template page don't carry over. So basically it's almost like there was no point in them even making a word bubble template, because they are just using the base coding every time anyway instead of the short cut, but they are pulling the categories with it when they copy/paste. OH and feel better soon :)


 * ~ Bach 14:18, November 19, 2013 (UTC)