Voting:Level 5's and Up/Helper Test/Process of Being a Helper

Helper Test/Process of becoming a helper.
So recently, there’s been a lot of confusion over how someone becomes a helper. Previously, people signed up to become helpers with the support of an admin, and there was a helper test which was made to help people improve. However, lots of people believe that the test is in fact necessary to becoming a helper, which isn’t true. There have also been aspersions over the quality and accuracy of the test. So, I have written this proposal to try and establish a clear policy which everyone can adhere to.

1: We leave everything as it is. The test stays the same, people become helpers by signing up

2: The admin team rewrites the test together, with various people checking to ensure that it is fair and accurate. Passing the test will become compulsory to become a helper, with the sponsorship of someone on the admin team.

3: The test is just a formality or a tool, which helps users train to become helpers. On having the test marked, they can sign up/request support from anyone on the admin team to train them up, and the test will be rewritten by the admin team to reflect this.

4: We abolish the test completely. The user base become helpers with the sponsorship of anyone in the admin team, or sign up to become helpers. This would work exactly like the Admin Training Program, where someone in the team helps the regular user with basic helper duties.

5: We could possibly abolish helpers as they have such little power, and let anyone become helpers. However they would have to be level 5 and would work on a strike system, if any helper is deemed to make inappropriate edits, they are given two or three strikes before being demoted.

Option 1 (+3)
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3.Little kandi raver She's my number one And everytime i see her moving she's always having fun  22:23, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

Comments
Shouldn't this be an Admin Team issue? I could be horribly wrong,but it seems like the admin team knows more about this and could vote in a fairer way. Thanks for reading, love --->

I agree with Suit. Me not being an admin, I know nothing of this issue. I don't think I'm eligible to vote, to be perfectly honest. [http://camphalfbloodroleplay.wikia.com/wiki/User:Britney_Asher "If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." ]~Brit

I think it's because I was the one who brought it up so Alex wanted to let me vote as well, albeit I think it wasn't a good idea since this is an admin issue. So I'm not exactly sure. Maybe I shouldn't have meddled in admin issues. ~

This is purely an admin issue and this should not be here cause even if it does involve level 5 it would effect the admin team as a whole

I can always relocate it to the admin team if necessary. Truthfully, I put it here because there was a large argument in chat about it, and I feel like it is something which does affect the majority of the wiki, as a lot of our user-base are helpers. I'll move it to wherever the bcrats deem necessary. Like I wasn't sure. Cause yes it affects the admin team, but it affects the users more, so it's a bit like 2.0 *and affect, Mel.*

Alex your right as mentioned by many before us this will well effect the whole of wiki but if it was a debate it wouldnt be on the voting forum now would it? a debate is place somewhere else and this is a place where we put an argument to rest... You know this alex being a valuable member of the admin team that is

It's not a debate, it is a vote, as you can see by the various options to vote on. I just condensed the ideas people had and put them here. Being a veteran of the vote system (ie: stygian, various sets etc), I do understand the difference between a vote and a debate. Your concern is appreciated, and I did have people check the proposal with me first. I'll let the admins decide where to put it.

I'm pretty neutral for the most part about whether this is a level 5's + or Admin Only kind of vote, but I feel like we need to get that cleared up fully before we vote on any of these options here.  "No wind is of service to him that is bound for nowhere."    -Wind

I think the vote does fine here seeing as being level five means you can become a helper. Idk how "apart" of the admin team a helper is, but to me they're just glorified rb's that can't check claims. I guess approving them makes them more of a responsibility since they're not as experienced and will probably have to be checked up on. They'll fall under the responsibility of the admin team regardless since they'll be presumably working under/with a member.

Personally, I don't care for the title much. It doesn't really matter. Most of the people that go for rb are going to get it through learning from someone with proper experience/networking, which should be enough.

As for the test, I don't there's enough clarity for it to mean anything. Plus I don't think the helper position means all that much since you can do everything a helper does by following a good example. It's just a title, really.

I'm going with option five, but I do think there should be some sort of guideline made for claiming, categorizing, etc. That way people know what they're doing, what they can do, and how to do it. Also, pairing up of admin team members / helpers for moderation and check up. The admin team should know what's right / wrong

Furthermore, I think letting anyone try it would be a help to finding more potential admin team members, that way no one has to go looking out for it.. It also gives an option to test the waters to see if being rb is what they really want, seeing as they're kind of the same thing, just a higher title and rb's can approve claims.

I think it should be for for level fives and up because this is a decision that effects the whole wiki, and no offense to the admins, but it is because last time they had complete control over this that we are here, voting on the test again in the first place.

I agree with level fives being able to vote and such. Yesterday on chat there was a big... discussion. This vote effects the entire wiki, whether people choose to believe it or not.

We keep saying that we have to move forward, to keep changing. We have been trying to make this a better wiki than what we were given. I know that Brocky has worked hard, among others who I can't remember.

I believe, and this is my opinion, that this should be like the adopt a newb program. Admins say that they don't have time for that, but think about it. You want to have people who are competent at helping around the wiki? Adopt them and show them how it's done. Don't just say, "Hey, btw, here, help out however you can" and not show them What or how to do things.

I've been here a while, and I'm still not an admin. I've seen people who have been here for less than 6 months become helpers and even rbs. Nata is a good example of this. (Nata gave Mel permission to say score, Ima assume it's alright. I'm sorry if it's not) Nata failed the helper test. But yet Mel still promoted him to chat mod because she trusts him. It's not really about the test it seems. It seems like this is all about trust. Who can you trust with a small job, and eventually, who can you trust to run this wiki?

Regarding Nat's opinion, there is already a training program that works like Adopt-A-Newb. I don't know if it's still that active but I'm pretty sure that it can still work. If what we need is something like that, then we don't have to create a new program entirely and just revive or restore the system we used for the Admin Team Training Program.

I like Nat's idea. Migs, the Admin Training is specifically so admins can be trained by other admins. What if we had a helper training program? A few people would probably say we do informally, but it is not official and I think we should make it official. This would give those who want to learn more about helping out around the wiki an opportunity to do so. I know Bach was going to do something like this (i forgot the link) but she left, so maybe we need to start another one like it.