User talk:PerseusJackson

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Camp Half-Blood Role Playing Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Camp Half-Blood Role Playing Wiki page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Thebiguglyalien (Talk) 22:54, 1 April 2011

It came in automatically.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:03, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I was kind of hoping you could help with the organization... Heh heh... Any ideas?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:06, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

What should we do? Let's start at the beginning. How do you "get to camp"?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'm thinking you should be able to be more than just demigods. It wouldn't hurt to be a satyr, a mortal, or even an automaton.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:19, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

How about a "character request forum"? Sort of like this, except a form instead of a quiz? Admins (meaning me) just go through the forms sent in.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:24, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you help out I guess it's only fair. Do you want rights now? (For the record, I wouldn't normally just hand out admin rights, but I know you're capable.)  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:26, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Done. You have admin rights.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:28, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Have fun! (That's a yes.)  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:30, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

It's going to be a long time before this is running. We might as well get started.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:33, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

IRC now?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I can't get on IRC right now.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:46, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I'll be on in a minute.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:48, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking people could request to be something. See this page for details.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 01:02, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

What did you want to add to the forums?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 19:16, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Go into claiming, and there will be a box.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 19:18, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not working on cabins right now. Ask TheGhostMan.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 19:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Are you working on any cabins? We can't do the same one, so I need to know what you're doing.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 19:30, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Just missing the picture i found of Hypnos. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 19:40, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, why? Do you think there will be too many characters? I'm looking here so I know how to make an RPG wiki. It's not a problem there.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 19:49, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Treaty between two big three cabins?
Sure we can have a treaty just put it underneath the Treaties part of the pages and give a reason and what privlieges are given in exchange for it TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 19:53, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Nice.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 20:24, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Two things.

1. Can I just write stuff about my character on my user page like you can do on the Hogwarts RPG Wiki?

2. Can I be counselor for the Zeus Cabin?

Thanks,

Head.Boy.Hog (Talk To Me)  20:47, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

You want to have a treaty for Capture the Flag with my cabin and the Hades cabin? --Draco Dragovich 21:01, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Any ideas on what we can do after we get a character?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:00, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

How would we fight? That's why I'm asking.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Let's keep thinking. Maybe admins can sometimes play as gods that can start quests.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:27, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

No idea.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:31, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

They do lessons, As in learning magic. We could offer monster fighting lessons.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:32, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. You're doing good. If you ever have a good idea, don't hesitate to start it.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:36, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:44, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Athena
Oh yea, sorry didn't explain myself properly, I mean that I was "basing" it off that, not that I wanted it to be exactly that. I was thinking like you said, more along the lines of minor telepathy/empathy, I can tell how someone is feeling, sort of like Troi on Star Trek the next Generation. --BachLynn (Send an Owl! ) 02:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, good, yea didn't mean to go overboard, but I wanted her abilities to sort of be a lesser version of Athena's. --BachLynn (Send an Owl! ) 02:05, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Monster Combat Training
Did you see Monster Combat Training? It will be a class that explains how to fight monsters. A certain demigod will be in charge of it. That way, it has a "voice".  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 02:08, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey my page when i put the Infobox and now i have ==

History== on my page could you please fix it? TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 14:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Did you read the Harry Potter series?

Head.Boy.Hog (Talk To Me)  15:06, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Did you want to come over to the Hogwarts RPG then? (I'm an admin there.)

Head.Boy.Hog (Talk To Me)  15:10, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'll be there. (I have about 4 characters there:2 professors, a student and a poor guy.)

Head.Boy.Hog (Talk To Me)  15:13, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!&quot;Beware the Jabberwokk my son; The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch.&quot; 16:45, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

^Often forget to sign &quot;Beware the Jabberwokk my son; The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch.&quot; 16:45, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

THANK YOU!  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 17:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Question
I've noticed a lot of treaties. Question: How is there any kind of competition if all cabins are aligned?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 21:37, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. What do you think about Forum:Quests? This is just a prototype.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:18, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. I have to fix the link.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:19, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Very.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:21, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. About how much more should we add to the wiki before we officially open it?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:24, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Give the link to everyone. There's a reason there are only a handful of people here. Didn't you see how many people wanted to join?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:25, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Now the biggest question remains... how are we going to get that far? Quests and a few monster fighting lessons isn't enough.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:28, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I figured we could cover more by splitting Monster Combat Training into a second class called Weapon Training. The first will teach how to get the specific monsters, while the second will teach how to use the specific weapons. Who will teach weapon training?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:31, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

A character is going to need to do this as your "voice". Is it going to be Jordan? Or are you going to specially make a character, like this one?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:36, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Do you think the quests system can be improved? Or is it already good enough?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking a "limited" fan fic. You don't "write it" as much as you "play it". For example, they decide they take a train across the country, then I say the Minotaur bursts through the train. They say they climb on the minotaur, and stick a knife in its neck. Then I say the Minotaur jumps out of the way, only to hit its head, stunning it. Something like that.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:44, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay... quests, classes, what else?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:50, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey since we're making cabins for the Protogenoi why don't i make cabins for Gaia and Prometheus the one friendly titan? TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 02:13, April 4, 2011 (UTC)\

Okay what would his counselor power be? TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 02:15, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Treaty?
As we are best friends, I naturally ask for your alliance. How about my cabin gets to attack during Capture the Flag while your cabin gets to do archery class first and we'll split our chores in half, with my cabin doing half of yours while we do half our ours and your cabin does half of our chores while you do half our yours? If these terms are unfair how about you pick them (the part where you get the benefit of something).

Roxas Xion Axel 20:46, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Treaty
Will do.

Roxas Xion Axel 20:59, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

np
np.

Roxas Xion Axel 21:04, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Rollback Rights
I want to be a rollbacker but how???

Roxas Xion Axel 21:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

New char
Yeah. I was kinda laughing at myself for the 6 foot katana thing.'

Roxas Xion Axel 22:29, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

What do you think about this?  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:52, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also, keep an eye on this.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 22:55, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I can't think of anything. If you think of anything, feel free to make it.  Thebiguglyalien ( Yell at me here ) 23:35, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not feeling my illusion making? Even if it was gonna be highly limited and weaken me a butt load. It was one of the staples of my character being a potential camper. :( HollowAvarice 16:04, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well it is pretty chaosy/discordy. Say Camper 1 attacks Camper 2, all I would do is make Camper 1 look like Camper 3. So Camper 2 thinks he was attackd by Camper 3. Or maybe create the illusion of a big monster showing up to scare other monsters. Eris did have the power of illusions so I think it is fair. HollowAvarice 16:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

well, it was Eris could make others see what she wanted them to see, and shadow travel, and in the trojan war she literally diseased and slaughtered scores of men. so basic illusions isnt a big leap. HollowAvarice 16:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Obviously, the bigger the illusion the more easily it can be seen through. But I'll use simple small illusions like making two more of myself so my enemies don't know who is real, or changing my appearance. HollowAvarice 16:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well maybe you killed someone, say an evil demigod, and all of a sudden BAM, I make an illusion of him as a spirit. . . haunting you. . . forever. . . . HollowAvarice 16:37, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Come on, let me do some half-decent illusions, I'm the kids of one of the most powerful gods. HollowAvarice 16:48, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

yeah, I just wanna be able to hold my own against the actual combat based characters. I definatley won't get carried away. thank you kindly HollowAvarice 16:52, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Weapons Training
I'll teach archery if you like.

Roxas Xion Axel 23:49, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you my friend that sounds good and also with Hollow's compromise but as i have said multiple times we based the powers on what Hades and his children can do in the books and they just don't seem to understand that we know more about Hades' powers then Nyx's. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 16:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Btw thank your for your help in this little "feud" with Nyx and Athena. Guess no matter what Hades will never get the respect he deserves except from his friends, TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 16:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes just like you. Thank you. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 16:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC) P.S. I'm in a better mind now that i fought ym insomnia and got some sleep. This whole feud is pointless. I don't think Nyx will be happy until i giove up the shadow power which i won't cause i created it for my stories. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 16:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey think you could find me a good picture for Isabelle? Her description is of a big burly italian girl with long blonde hair. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 16:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you my friend and i will agree finding an ugly Italian girl is hard. But i went with the first pic she does have that Ares look to her. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 17:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a way to get Athena and Nyx to back off on counselor powers? TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 17:32, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah but Athena is backing Nyx so that kinda makes ehr the problem because she won't let it go either. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 17:35, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

What happens if they don't agree to it? Then we lose help from people that know what to do.... for rp wikis. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 17:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Never givng up the power
Sounds good but i'm sticking by my reasoning that i'm not giving up the power that i created for Tsumi just cause some girl wants to be a total bad a** on the field.TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 17:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

You got it. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 18:03, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

My point
Look, clearly there is some confusion here as to my intentions in all of this, my last 3 comments have less to do with the whole stupid shadow thing and more to do with trying to AVOID this from happening again down the road, when someone else comes on as a child of a god who isn't talked about in the books. Clearly most of my comments and reasons for getting involved have completely been misinterpreted. I mean this all happened because we have two gods with similar powers, one that's talked about a lot in the books, one that's not. All I'm asking for is now that the shadow thing is put to rest (it is put to rest right, I mean Hades apologised for yelling, which really was the comment that sent me off anyway to begin with.) I'm just saying how the powers are chosen (and not just the counsellor powers, the other regular powers to) for the lesser gods that aren't discussed in the books needs to be clearly defined up front for new user's, that's all I'm asking for, I just don't want to see a new user come in and have this happen all over again. Clearly Hades' Cabin is mistaking my pleas to have preventative actions taken so that this doesn't happen again (as in having this defined up front how the lesser known gods powers are chosen and based on what) as that I'm not letting the whole who has what shadow power debate go. --BachLynn (Send an Owl! ) 18:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, finally, someone sees what I'm trying to get across here. My thought is this, in searching around the web I found a ton of sights that talk about Nyx (I'm just using Nyx as an example, not continuing a debate here), and there's a lot of stuff out there, some are fan based only, some are more historical/mythology takes, there's also a superhero called nyx with abilities that follow the line of witchcraft. With the official HP Wiki, there's a level of "canon" order that's followed.

First, I think that just for the sake of new user's who may not be as familiar with all of the books, it should be stated that the books take the highest canon when it comes to powers and power creation. Rick isn't perfect there's always the possibility that he may have contradicted a historical/mythological source without realising it.

Second, obviously we can't comb every website, to decide what's appropriate and what's not for sources, so I think that you should just say that for gods and powers that aren't discussed in the books, that they need to be based on Mythology itself, and I mean you've already stated that it's the administrators who decide if a power is appropriate, but for the sake of another argument of who has a right and who doesn't, or who was here first and who wasn't, it might be helpful to list a few websites where information can be obtained. I mean it's just really tough how Rick doesn't cover all the gods in as much detail as he does the big three. I mean this whole debate literally turned into a "that's not fair" argument because Hades has more options. Which of course he does he's talked about more in the books, so to counter this we should try and strengthen what we have on the other gods. --BachLynn (Send an Owl! ) 18:16, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, obviously wikipedia, as this is Wikia, and the Half-Blood wiki itself. Here I'll put a few sites that I found that seem to fit more with Mythology and less with super heroes or fan fiction:
 * 1) http://www.pantheon.org/areas/mythology/europe/greek/
 * 2) http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0777436.html
 * 3) http://www.mythweb.com/
 * 4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology

These websites seem to follow Mythology accurately, obviously these are just the main pages, to find the specific gods people will have to dig a bit. Also I apologise if I was coming off like I was just trying to continue the argument, it was just really frustrating to me how it came out. I also think that maybe it's a good idea in the future, if maybe instead of the constant comments back and forth on various talk pages and cabin pages, once it's clear that there is a heated debate/issue, especially to the point that cabins are choosing sides, we start a dedicated page solely for a "debate". I think that some of the comments on Hades' cabin were getting read out of order. Once it's established there's a debate, we should hold an official debate forum of some sort on the topic so it can be easily monitored for the admin's side of it, and less likely for comments to be read out of order. --<font face="Vivaldi" size="5" color="Purple" >BachLynn (<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="2" color="Purple">Send an Owl! ) 18:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Chars
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Roxas Xion Axel 19:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Debates
Oh, what were your thoughts on moving any future debates to a special debate forum to keep confusion down and make it easier for admin's to moderate? This way comments don't get read out of order or overlooked entirely causing confusion. Also, as far as treaty's I left my thoughts on that on TheGhost's talk page, and as I don't really feel like typing it all again, if you could peruse down to the bottom of his talk page and see my thoughts on it that would be awesome! --<font face="Vivaldi" size="5" color="Purple" >BachLynn (<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="2" color="Purple">Send an Owl! ) 19:45, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I am absolutely not happy. As the daughter of Nyx I am entitled to control over darkness more so than Hades's children. FAR more. Clearly you really just aren't getting what I'm saying at all. Maybe you have neglected to read what I've been writing or perhaps this is simply too complicated for you. I really don't know at this point. Flamefang 19:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Who is this 'everybody else'? I can tell you for a fact that BachLynn disagrees, and I haven't seen comments from anyone besides yourself and the agitator here. Aside though, I don't even see how you can possibly disagree with me. I mean, it just stands to common sense! Read what I've written carefully and maybe then you'll begin to understand. When I write I don't typically reiterate so don't ignore my newer statements they have valid points in them also. I stopped a lot of my editing on the Harry Potter RPG wiki because I'd had just about enough with some user's constant displays of utter idiocy and immaturity. Please don't tell me I've found the same thing here. Flamefang 19:58, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah and he said that Bach doesn't agree? Has he read both our talk pages? She has agreed it isn't about the shadow power anymore iot was about the concern of the future users that want to become minor demigods that worry their powers won't be good. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 20:10, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I would like everyone who disagrees with me to state their arguments clearly on the debate page I made. If I cannot find their flaws I am clearly wrong and must adjust my views. Also, the issue isn't closed until both sides feel that they have reached a point of agreement or cannot continue further. Flamefang 20:12, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Look let me put it this way: This will continue bothering me unless I understand the validity of your argument. At this point I see no reason or mythological backing behind it. Explain it to me. Flamefang 20:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

So you have no argument and refuse to listen to mine? How can you claim to be an administrator when you are unwilling to uphold any sense of justice or decency? I really hate people who aren't willing to listen to other's arguments and then won't state their own when asked. I'll likely be leaving unless you can convince me to stay somehow. Flamefang 20:19, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Please read my arguments. Then I will deal with you. Flamefang 20:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

What? How did you think that was a threat? No, I was saying you need to read and understand what I've written before I will speak further with you. You clearly don't understand what I'm asking for. The Child of Hades has asked me to state my argument and I'll be doing so on a new page in a moment. Flamefang 20:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Better compromise maybe?
Ok, so here's the thing your pretty much set on who's got shadow solidification right? Right. So my only last attempt at reaching a peaceful solution for Hades and Nyx, is that if you look at Nyx's capabilities, she only has 1 truly offensive capability (They can also materialize tools from this darkness, only to return them as if they had never existed.) the rest are really defensive, I mean so you black out everything and you can't see, but really other powers contracict that being possible and so what no one can see it's still not really offensive, I'd like to see if we can come up with a power for Nyx that can be offensive, to try and balance out the powers. I was also thinking maybe we should in general split up the list of powers based on offensive or defensive, because I mean we should try and keep them somewhat balanced. --<font face="Vivaldi" size="5" color="Purple" >BachLynn (<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="2" color="Purple">Send an Owl! ) 21:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Better compromise maybe?
Ok, so here's the thing your pretty much set on who's got shadow solidification right? Right. So my only last attempt at reaching a peaceful solution for Hades and Nyx, is that if you look at Nyx's capabilities, she only has 1 truly offensive capability (They can also materialize tools from this darkness, only to return them as if they had never existed.) the rest are really defensive, I mean so you black out everything and you can't see, but really other powers contracict that being possible and so what no one can see it's still not really offensive, I'd like to see if we can come up with a power for Nyx that can be offensive, to try and balance out the powers. I was also thinking maybe we should in general split up the list of powers based on offensive or defensive, because I mean we should try and keep them somewhat balanced. --<font face="Vivaldi" size="5" color="Purple" >BachLynn (<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="2" color="Purple">Send an Owl! ) 21:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC)