Archived:Recognisable and Famous

So in the past there has always been confusion at times, as to how we deal with models that are "too recognisable". Some users would simply research the model and vote with what they felt was "too famous" even though they didn't actually recognise the model themselves. Now on top of that, we have the model prize, but obviously it needed a degree of limits because some models would be just either in bad taste to use (like the actor that plays Percy Jackson) or completely absurd to use (like the actor that plays Harry Potter.) However, "too recognisable" isn't always the same as "too famous". So first let me break down what the initial "too recognisable" rule means.

Too Recognisable
Our wiki represents a wide variety of countries, cultures, ages and interests. What we try to do, is focus on what's "too recognisable" to our wiki. I don't care what the rest of the world feels, only what our wiki feels. For instance, not everyone watches Doctor Who at all, and might vaguely recognise an image of the recent doctor if they watch a lot of Television, but they might not recognise one of the companion actors at all. There's a good chunk of users on our wiki that don't like or bother watching Doctor Who. Now to us Doctor Who fans, we might find it absurd that Jenna-Louise Coleman isn't recognised by more users on the wiki, we see Doctor Who as a really popular program. This is why credits don't play a part, or shouldn't, when voting for the initial too recognisable vote. It should be simple, do you, or don't you, recognise them.

Too Famous
With the new prize we have, using a model that most would recognise, it goes beyond just being recognised. Odds are if the prize is being used, it's because most on the wiki would recognise this person. Because of that we need a different standard to judge what is "too famous". This should, in theory, be entirely different than just personal opinion or interest. What defines too famous. This is where it could get complicated, and even if we agree to vote on all models before the prize can be used, we need a more concrete idea of how to vote if it can't be based on what we personally recognise. For instance, I hardly consider 20 to 30 minutes of acting across 5 films, a big role, even if the films were big hits. However, someone who perhaps stared in a hit tv show, for quite a number of years, and have done numerous hit movies that also were very popular, that might be someone that could be considered too famous.

Purpose
The purpose of this debate is to get the feelings and views of other users. We desperately need a way to judge what is too famous, but it can't just based on if someone is recognised, it has to be more than that. It also has to be more than just a personal view of how popular a show is. I feel it should be some combination of how many starring roles they've done in popular movies and films. As far as singers or models who aren't in films, this could be even more difficult.

Debate
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